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11-06-2009, 08:37 pm
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Broken Rudder Head
Does anyone know where I can buy one?
Do I need to buy a new one or is it repairable?
One of the holes where the bolt that connects the rudder head to the tiller ripped out.
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11-06-2009, 09:13 pm
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Re: Broken Rudder Head
Nskinn,
A good machine shop would be able to take what you have a modify the remaining parts and make a very serviceable rudder head. A quick look from my point of view, I'd cut off the other flange, grind off the remaining flange bases, then drill a horizonal hole in the rudder head itself. The section the tiller is bolted to could be bolted to the modified rudder head! This would make a stonger connection than the original configuration. My 2 cents worth! Good luck! Have a great day!
David
PS Those are excellent pictures!
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11-07-2009, 06:42 am
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25
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Re: Broken Rudder Head
What size shaft? I have one not being used that looks like that. The bolt should take all of the strain. The tiller should fold over the shaft portion and the torque is applied through the cheeks. The bolt serves as a pivot and keeps the assembly together.
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11-07-2009, 07:20 am
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- Telstar 28
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Re: Broken Rudder Head
It would also help if you said what the tiller cap was made of...if it is bronze or stainless steel, you may be able to have it repaired... by welding a new "ear" on to it and drilling it for the bolt. IMHO, that is a bit under engineered, as there is only one bolt and all the stress is on the small area of the ears... having the bolt further back would give it a lot more support.
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New England
You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.
—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)
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11-07-2009, 09:40 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross
What size shaft? I have one not being used that looks like that. The bolt should take all of the strain. The tiller should fold over the shaft portion and the torque is applied through the cheeks. The bolt serves as a pivot and keeps the assembly together.
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It is for a 3/4 inch rudder shaft.
If you have one not being used I would be interested.
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11-07-2009, 09:50 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dserrell
Nskinn,
A good machine shop would be able to take what you have a modify the remaining parts and make a very serviceable rudder head. A quick look from my point of view, I'd cut off the other flange, grind off the remaining flange bases, then drill a horizonal hole in the rudder head itself. The section the tiller is bolted to could be bolted to the modified rudder head! This would make a stonger connection than the original configuration. My 2 cents worth! Good luck! Have a great day!
David
PS Those are excellent pictures!
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That's a good idea. If I can't get one to replace it I may have to try that!
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11-07-2009, 09:51 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog
It would also help if you said what the tiller cap was made of...if it is bronze or stainless steel, you may be able to have it repaired... by welding a new "ear" on to it and drilling it for the bolt. IMHO, that is a bit under engineered, as there is only one bolt and all the stress is on the small area of the ears... having the bolt further back would give it a lot more support.
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I think it is made of bronze.
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11-07-2009, 10:24 am
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Rigrite to the rescue again
http://www.rigrite.com/Hardware/Rudd...Tiller%20Heads
Bronze Rudder Head for 3/4" Shaft: PP 83-975BR:
Cast Bronze Rudder Head fits 3/4" Rudder Shaft with a 3/16" wide key on the Forward side, and features 1/4" bolt for clamping it to the Shaft, as well as an adjustment screw for tightening the key into the keyway. Rudder Head is (maximum) 1 1/4" wide with 3/8" hole on aft side for Tiller Head bolt, and fits over the top 2 1/8" of Rudder Shaft. Frequently used with Bronze Tiller Head (PP-83-975BT) for 1 3/8" wide Tiller.
No price. They can do custom jobs too. I'd call them.
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11-07-2009, 05:27 pm
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Originally Posted by BobM
No price. They can do custom jobs too. I'd call them.
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Thanks for the link! I will call them on Monday.
If anybody has a used one for sale, please let me know!
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11-07-2009, 06:59 pm
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No problem
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Originally Posted by nskinn
Thanks for the link! I will call them on Monday.
If anybody has a used one for sale, please let me know!
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BTW, I have purchased items from them a few times, as have others. They are a reliable vendor and a lots of help on the phone.
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11-07-2009, 09:48 pm
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- Telstar 28
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Re: Broken Rudder Head
BTW, IIRC, the bolt should be on the aft end of the rudder cap, so that the turning loads are taken by the sides of the cap, not by the bolt alone.
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New England
You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.
—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)
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